I wasnt particularly thinking of fear of leaving the Borg.
But if you're born in, the real world can be a little daunting.
We can feel like a fish out of water.
at the same time that i left the borg, my whole life changed, much more than i would.
ever have imagined.. i was, i admit, a little afraid.
that was when i heard this song for the first time.
I wasnt particularly thinking of fear of leaving the Borg.
But if you're born in, the real world can be a little daunting.
We can feel like a fish out of water.
i don't know whether this has ever been asked, so i apologize if i'm repeating.. what did you do at the last meeting you ever attended?
did you stay for the whole thing?
what made you realize that this was your last meeting, or did you not know it would be your last meeting??.
An interesting tread watersprout. I enjoyed reading the experiences.
I read up some of your older threads too. Hope you are getting better.
at the same time that i left the borg, my whole life changed, much more than i would.
ever have imagined.. i was, i admit, a little afraid.
that was when i heard this song for the first time.
At the same time that I left the Borg, my whole life changed, much more than I would
ever have imagined.
I was, I admit, a little afraid. That was when I heard this song for the first time.
It inspired me to face up to my fears, and embrace the rewards for doing so.
That is why I wish to share it with you all.
“The Rose” Bette Midler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6okRuOLc8&feature=related
“It's the heart afraid of breaking
that never learns to dance
It's the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance
It's the one who won't be taken
who cannot seem to give
and the soul afraid of dying that never learns to live”.
Its ok to be afraid. But try not to let it paralyse you. Life beyond fear is wonderful.
So what helped you overcome your fears.
once again we received the may 15th " witness only " wt from our lurking jw friend.
even though i've been out for over 7 years and haven't attended in that long - i never cease to be amazed at the arrogance of this patriarchal man pleasing wt society in it's dismissive attitude towards women .
it's horrible.
Hi Lady Lee.
I hope you are ok today.
Newsflash to any JW wife - What if you disagree with your husband because he's being a idiot making DANGEROUS and HURTFUL decisions which could put your family and yourself in danger ??
She would probably be told to "wait on Jehovah".
i've been visiting this forum for quite awhile now, reading as much as i can about others in situations similar to mine.
i've learned alot but i think i am ready to share and will really appreciate whatever advice/thoughts anyone has to offer.. i'm a "wordly" gal (non-demoninational christian) and have been dating a jw for a year.
he has been a witness for about 34 yrs but has been inactive the past two due to the way he and his ex were treated when she was df'd for cheating/alcoholism.
Make it so.
i've been visiting this forum for quite awhile now, reading as much as i can about others in situations similar to mine.
i've learned alot but i think i am ready to share and will really appreciate whatever advice/thoughts anyone has to offer.. i'm a "wordly" gal (non-demoninational christian) and have been dating a jw for a year.
he has been a witness for about 34 yrs but has been inactive the past two due to the way he and his ex were treated when she was df'd for cheating/alcoholism.
Welcome Dawn.
I get the impression that your friend may be less attached to the jws than to his children and grandchildren.
That is what really makes things difficult, because the borg makes its members chose between leading their own
life and keeping contact with their family. It is a wicked coersion, but very effective.
Your friend may well be very much in love with you, but faces a very difficult decision. Good luck. I hope you find
happiness.
at last year's local memorial service, purported to honor jesus' sacrificial death and its signficance to the eternal prospects of humanity, the visiting speaker from bethel quite remarkably managed to talk for almost an hour without one recourse to the word "resurrection".. a remarkable achievement, given its centrality in the belief system of nominal christianity.
nor were the stirring moments of high drama in the bible's depicting of jesus last hours on earth-- his last supper and his prayer for the well-being of his disciples, the betrayal of judas, the agony of the garden; his disciples' succumbing to sleep; his betrayal and arrest in the garden of gethesemane; the scattering of his fear-gripped disciples; peter's denial, and the climactic soul-stirring awareness of the signficance of the empty tomb and its guardian's chilling pronouncement to mary magdalene and the women "why are you searching for the living among the dead?"...
and so on, to his post-resurrection appearance at emmaus, etc.. all of this was swept aside in favor of convincing those in attendance that they had no business in partaking of the emblematic bread and wine.
I always did think that it was strange that the 144000 was not complete before the 20 century.
From memory ( though I am starting to forget some of the details) in the first century 5000 were baptised in one day, and 3000 on another occasion.
At that rate, in one month the 144000 would have been complete.
I wonder if the GB accounts are as accurate as their other number crunching?
the comments were made by a militant jw pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.. at the time i was on the ministry with him.
as we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all!
each one on the road of futility".
Her's an irony:
A friend who was a good dub, pioneer from school no further education, etc wanted to go to bethel.
He was refused.
They only "needed" computor experts and the like at the time, to work on their new programs.
So here they were saying, people who have gone to university, studied and got their diplomas were the only ones who would be accepted to bethel.
My good and faithful dub friend didnt fit because he had obeyed and left school early.
and if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.
i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.
yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.
I dont know, today if I believe in demons or not.
I did find that jws talked about them alot. I think they use it as another gimmick to scare people into joining them.
it is easy to understand why some could have nagging doubts when seeing world events.. "maybe it is the truth after all?".
i came accross this site http://www.prophecynewswatch.com and realise ( well i knew already) that there is no shortage of prophecy, or prophets.. in 1970, i was just a boy, i remember hearing on the radio.
"by 1978 there will be no water left that is fit enough to drink, but we shouldnt worry because by 1977 the air will no longer support human life".
Interesting comments alanv and the illuminator.
One problem is that the GB discourage reading other material, other than their own.
I wonder why.